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 Kalanchoe luciae...the King of Flapjacks.. 
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Post Kalanchoe luciae...the King of Flapjacks..
For years it was only K.thrysifolia sold as Flapjacks.Tender to frost,common to rot back in winter and easy prey for snails. Last year Kalanchoe luciae showed up. Bigger,redder, and it turns out more cold and rot resistant. 9b..maybe a very mild 9b,but better than the 10a need of thrysifolia.
This is a plant I have to get more of. I had to test the waters and in doing so passed up some nice specimens offered for sale over the last year. Like Pachypodiums-who knew?

Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:15 am
A lovely plant, I haven't seen it before. As a complete beginner to succulents, preferring jungly stuff, Kalancoes are one of my favourites. I'm going to be making a dry (and I use the word advisedly - well it is Cornwall) area this winter and am looking for the best I can find. I may have to cover it with a rainproof roof or similar because the amount of rain we have here is only second to the west of Ireland. :shock: I have K. bahariense which seems to do fine in a pot and in a cold greenhouse in winter but not sure how hardy it is. What's the prostrate plant next to it?

Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:00 am

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You should have no problems ith Thyrisfolia provding you keep it dry. I have plants out for quite a few years you should just see a plant behind the Ceropega

Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:22 pm
Many thanks Frank, as soon as I have a chance I will be investigating a few succulents. Before any building we have to cut down the gigantic Privet, Sycamore and Ash hedge we have allowed to grow too large. That's a whole winter job in itself. :roll: Your succulent area is second to none from what I remember, and the secret is keeping them dry in winter as you say. We really must pay you another visit sometime soon.

Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:51 pm
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That looks a nice plant Stan. I seem to be getting away with growing Kalanchoe beharensis outdoors, so this one should be easy.

Carol, I grow all sorts of tender succulents here, and I don't use any rain covers. We are one of the driest places in Ireland (about 27 inches annual precipitation), but last winter we had about 3 times our average rainfall. The only succulents I lost were growing in waterlogged heavy clay! Drainage is the key, most succulents don't mind winter rain, providing they have good drainage. In fact, many Aloes actually need winter rain, as that's when they grow. Build some raised beds filled with rubble and a gravelly mix, and you should be able to forget about rain covers.

Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:06 pm
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I agree(and with your advice to Carol),if your getting the even more tender beherensis to do well,this plant is well worth a try.And like just about any subtropical that does well in the bay area's cool z10 should grow just about as well in others z9-9b

How nice to talk to those who understand the appeal of the tropical look in non tropical climates rather than those genius's who say over and over,"They do better in the Tropics"...Gee, thanks for that revelation, mate :roll:

Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:42 pm

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Nice plant. The only Kalanchoe I have is :
Kalanchoe Diagremontiana X Tubiflora (Mexican Hat Plant X Indian Chandelier (Mother of thousands) Hybrid.

My God does it grow and then in the thousands!!!!!!!!! :D


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Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:09 pm
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