Epiphytes and the Summer Garden
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Tom Velardi
Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:20 pm Posts: 4337 Location: Kyushu, Southern Japan (33.607N latitude)
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Epiphytes and the Summer Garden
Watch what some of the epiphytes in my garden look like this time of year. Believe it or not, all that spanish moss started from just a handful 7 years ago. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MZkXWF5 ... e=youtu.beThat is not a TV in the background BTW, but rather my neighbors talking. This time of year families get together and party nearly 24/7.
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Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:26 am |
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MauriceEpitree
Joined: Wed May 11, 2011 12:14 am Posts: 689 Location: Te Aroha, Waikato, North Island, New Zealand
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Re: Epiphytes and the Summer Garden
Very nice indeed Tom. I grew spanish moss and it did really well till the next spring when the sparrows pinched every last scrap for their nests It probably wouldn't have been so bad if they built their nests in the local trees but they tend to nest in the eaves of houses so no outbreak of spanish moss all over the neighbourhood unfortunately. Maurice
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Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:05 am |
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Troydonovan
Joined: Sun May 30, 2010 1:54 am Posts: 1466 Location: Old Beach Tasmania
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Re: Epiphytes and the Summer Garden
Tom the Spanish moss looks like it's thriving in the warm Japanese summers . I just can't get it to grow down here ??
The Platycerium looks perfect it must not get that cold where you are .
BTW i really enjoyed the cycad video in the other post .
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Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:29 am |
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Steven
Joined: Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:02 pm Posts: 2486
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Re: Epiphytes and the Summer Garden
Great vid, Tom. Looks as if there hadn't been a winter! These noisy cicadas would drive me nuts.
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Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:36 pm |
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Tom Velardi
Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:20 pm Posts: 4337 Location: Kyushu, Southern Japan (33.607N latitude)
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Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:34 pm |
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Taffy
Joined: Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:06 am Posts: 453 Location: Newport Wales
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Re: Epiphytes and the Summer Garden
Very enjoyable vid. Watched the others as well, particulary found the waterfall interesting as i'm currently working on an arid bed with a dry stream bed, so have pinched a few idea's
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Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:55 am |
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Tom Velardi
Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:20 pm Posts: 4337 Location: Kyushu, Southern Japan (33.607N latitude)
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Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:26 pm |
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Stan
Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:52 pm Posts: 10687 Location: Hayward- S.F. Bay area Ca.
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Re: Epiphytes and the Summer Garden
Ahhh,too short. I was just starting to relax on the moss...and it was over. I think I have lost 50% of my potential moss to birds. And maybe the occasional visitor who fancys it. Whats left makes a nice jungle mood to the broms. My Birds nest is just huge..the newest fronds are around 5'..too bad it's now going into the rafters..hard to get a whole view now. I never thought that would be a problem when I planted it on a cracked cement bird bath.Epi Plants love old(cracked basin) bird baths.. Its time to move it..but where? I think you and I Tom garden on comparable sized estates..
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Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:27 pm |
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Tom Velardi
Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:20 pm Posts: 4337 Location: Kyushu, Southern Japan (33.607N latitude)
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Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:47 pm |
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Epiphyte
Joined: Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:41 pm Posts: 134 Location: Glendale, CA, USA
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Re: Epiphytes and the Summer Garden
Great video! That Neofinetia falcata looks superb! The only problem is that it looks kinda lonely What about Hoya motoskei? I've got Hoyas on my mind because I recently received a bunch from Thailand. Based on a bit of research...Hoya burmanica, Hoya fungii, Hoya globulosa and Hoya shepherdii/longifolia should be relatively cold tolerant. Kind of in the same ball park is . I'm happy with it but not quite sure exactly how much cold it can take. It does appreciate some decent moisture though. I have it growing on my Pygmy Date Palm along side Lemmaphyllum microphyllum. Folks in my fern society were very surprised to learn that I've been successfully growing it outside. would look pretty neat on your tree. Just recently I attached Hedychium longicornutum to my tree with a ton of New Zealand Sphagnum. It's growing nicely but I'm pretty sure that either the dry or cold of winter will do it in. There's got to be more than a few epiphytic Gesneriads that would be happy on your tree with a decent amount of moss. Let's see...there's ...which occurs in Southern Japan. and both have been documented to handle some frost. The that go deciduous can take some cold...but not sure if they would be able to take your cold. Codonanthes and Nematanthus are happily growing on my tree...but again...not sure if they can take your cold. Plectranthus, Peperomias and plants in the Commelinaceae all have quite a few good candidates for trees. If you have any rampant succulents in your garden then you might .
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Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:47 am |
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MAU
Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:46 pm Posts: 216 Location: Madrid,SPAIN
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Re: Epiphytes and the Summer Garden
Congratulations Tom, I love your Platy,Asplenium,and of course Spanisch moss! How about your tree ferns? Regards. Mau
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Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:46 am |
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Tom Velardi
Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:20 pm Posts: 4337 Location: Kyushu, Southern Japan (33.607N latitude)
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Re: Epiphytes and the Summer Garden
Mau, glad you enjoyed it. I'll get to the tree ferns, but honestly, there isn't much to see, mostly potting young plants. The star of the show, Cyathea australis was killed by the terrible winter of 2011.
Carlos, interesting suggestions. I've been neglecting to put much on the crape myrtle, that is true. Especially on the upper branches I should get some more orchids up there at the very least. I like the idea of getting a clump of Cautleya gracilis going. The tree that needs more epiphytes is the Ilex rotundifolia simply because it has so much more space.
I think the climate here is just a little too cold from late December through February to support many of the plants you suggest. Aeschynanthus acuminatus grows in Okinawa only, not the mainland, a place that never gets frost. It might be possible to get a Sinningia to resprout each spring, but for sure the winter will fry the foliage. Peperomia is an interesting idea and I need to explore getting more cold tolerant Tillandsia. Hoyas - I doubt any of them will handle the cold here.
I've had very good success with all the native epiphytes of course. Two ferns, Lepisorus thunbergiana and Davallia marseii, in fact are weedy and hundreds of sporlings have to be removed each year or they will own the place. All the native orchids do well, and a few exotic orchids seem to handle this place OK too - Dendrobium nobile and its hybrids, Dendrobium kingianum and its hybrids, and some species from the Atlantic rainforest of Brazil. Selaginella seiboldii too is just fine outside since it is a native of Kyushu.
In the next vid I'll show the plum tree - it is stuffed with all kinds of epiphytes.
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Epiphyte
Joined: Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:41 pm Posts: 134 Location: Glendale, CA, USA
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Tom Velardi
Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:20 pm Posts: 4337 Location: Kyushu, Southern Japan (33.607N latitude)
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Hey Carlos, Actually, you have pushed me to get some more epiphytes growing in available spaces. The winter of 2011 shocked me so much I just backed off utterly in planting anything new. I have several orchids I want to move to brighter locations and a few ferns that need mounting. As for Hoya, yes, they may be able to survive here, though I imagine they will have some damage during bad cold spells. Hoya carnosa is native to the southern islands of Japan and is listed also in Miyazaki Prefecture in SE Kyushu - place warmer in winter than here. I didn' know about H. burmanica, I'll see if I can source one. Here is a nifty little site I found and you can see H. carnosa growing in habitat in the Amami Islands, just north of Okinawa. The side bar will show you many plants from those subtropical islands, though only in Japanese: http://tokorin.cocolog-nifty.com/photos ... 70611.htmlI'm no weather historian, but in recent history at least the islands south of Yakushima indeed do not freeze. I guess at some point in history they have, but not recently. They are in a different climate regime than the Bahamas or Florida Keys, but biologically are quite similar with flora from the south dominating, coral reefs present, large mangrove estuaries, etc. Your experiments sound very interesting, but searching for that perfectly hardy Platycerium superbum isn't something I really want to pursue at this point in life. Where would I grow them all! Right now my little botanical garden has me running in 6 directions at once and adding more is, ah, out of the question unless I retire or revert back to a 30 year old. Still, I have found some plants to be cold tolerant beyond expectation - for instance Cibotium barometz which is only found in and around Okinawa in Japan. I have one plant that has sailed through the last 3 winters completely unaffected by cold that killed Cyathea australis, Cyathea dregei, and the Kyushu native Angiopteris lygodiifolia. Go figure. Tom
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Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:10 am |
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Stan
Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:52 pm Posts: 10687 Location: Hayward- S.F. Bay area Ca.
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Re: Epiphytes and the Summer Garden
You lost the C australis and the dregei? C.dregie seems to be much more cold sensitive then its South Africa origins would lead you to beleive. C.australis? Along with the D.A's were able to survive our deep 1972 and 1990 freezes..down to -8C. And in 1972 that cold was near all month of freezing temps. Its all matter of duration..and I know you said the days weren't rebounding. It might be worth a re-try Tom. And D.A.'s can;t take the summer for you? Platycerium superbum did so well..I would get back on that horse...and protect it in winter this time. Like my Mango's..how much winter effort makes the difference as marginal is extreme marginal with them.
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