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In those Auracaria forest in Huerquehue N.P. you get a lot of Chusquea, Nothofagus and also wild Alstroemeria aurea. i went there in early autumn and the dark green of the Auracarias with the red Nothofagus leaves under a blue sky is unforgetable.

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Alexander--yep...that's the national park! The Chusquea bamboo were almost everywhere there. Alstroemeria aurea weren't in bloom yet--that would've been a sight to see.

I've seen pics of deciduous Nothofagus in Chile and Argentina from autumn before--they're as good as almost any Northern Hemisphere deciduous tree for autumn color!

Banana Joe--Yep...Jubaea and Araucaria were obvious "must-sees" in the wild! Of course, their habitats were different (even though supposedly, Jubaea was reported at some point to grow up to about 1400 meters above sea level).


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I would love to travel to Chile just to see Jubaeas growing in the wild. That to me would be heaven on earth! Cheers, Joe

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Ahh Chile! What a great place and what great photos - I love the size of your shots Brandt, so much better for viewing. It looks like you and I trod the same ground once or twice. I went to that same beach near Valdivia.

It's great to see how green it was in La Campana; I was there in January a couple of years ago and it was looking a bit parched. Also to see how much snow there was in the mountains; again, in Jan, it had retreated to the tops of the very highest peaks.

I have a few idents for you:

The Puya at La Campana, at least the one in your photo, is P. berteroana not P. chilensis.

The evergreen shrub beneath the Nothofagus on Villarica is Drimys andina (syn. D. winteri var. andina)

The evergreen Nothofagus you thought might be N. dombeyi is correct (though there is a possibilty it might be the very closely related N. nitida in this area).

Your mystery tree with the fabulous bark is Luma apiculata.

The Gunnera you have down as G. chilensis is G. tinctoria.

The common Blechnum in your photo is B. chilense (though B. magellanicum is also found in the area)

The larger deciduous Nothofagus is N. obliqua.

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Thanks for the IDs, Nick! I made the changes in the photo albums.

Yep--I figured things would change a lot between November and January. While the hillsides around La Campana were already turning brown, it actually did rain quite a bit that evening (when I was down in Valparaiso--probably between 1/4" and 1/2" (6-12 mm) there--I'm sure more in La Campana). It rained several times when I was further south, though of course from about Temuco south, there's decent rain every month of the year.

I like posting big shots--makes it easier to ID plants, and sometimes it will even allow people to point out things I might've missed! And...I want people to feel like they're actually there...

Anyway, Chile was a great place to visit. I'll certainly be going down to the Southern Andes again (though next time, probably the Argentina side--I'd been to Argentina once before, but only BA and Iguazu Falls--need to see the south!).


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Brandt, stunning shots, beyond expectation really. Thanks for the extended album - I looked at every shot and read every word - no words to convey my impressions...a big thanks for posting these!

One comment though, that shot of the Araucaria around the lake with the snow mountains above - when I die, if I go to heaven, surely that will be the place.

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Brandt, thanks for providing this close-up pic of the mystery plant I commented about elsewhere. I'm hoping you don't mind if I repost it here. ID anyone??

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Tom--Thanks! That Araucaria/lake/snow/fog shot was as beautiful in person as could be! I was totally stunned when I suddenly came upon that viewpoint!

Ian--Yep...thanks for posting that! I'm curious if anyone knows what that is. Anyway, I should note that you and Nick independently came up with a couple of the IDs (thus, it's obviously very high confidence!)--Luma apiculata (which I never doubted--quite obvious once you ID'd) and Drimys winteri var. andina (which I doubted at first since it's so different in size and elevation from the regular D. winteri).


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Ian Barclay wrote:
Brandt, thanks for providing this close-up pic of the mystery plant I commented about elsewhere. I'm hoping you don't mind if I repost it here. ID anyone??


Sure looks like canelo (Drimys) to me


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For those going to Chile, Parque Nacional Alerce Andina is also worth a visit. Philesia, big Eucryphia cordifolia and Lophosoria grow wild there to name a few. Its east of Puerto Montt.

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What species? I'm not familiar with any Drimys having such fat looking stems. The bronzy new growth brought to mind Cryptocarya, but I'm sure that's even farther off the mark, since it looks nothing like that.

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So here's where I posted your pic, but I'm still not really convinced by any of the suggestions thus far.

http://www.chileflora.com/forumenglish/ ... ?f=4&t=297
http://www.ubcbotanicalgarden.org/forum ... hp?t=60169

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I'm in agreement with you Ian. There are many points that say it is Drimys winteri; the branching pattern, the long internodal growth on young specimens in full vigour and the way the foliage sits on the shoot, let alone the fact that the foliage looks almost perfect. The problem is those plants just don't look right! The shoot is overly fat in a way I've never seen on Drimys and the new growth looks odd. There's also a colour issue. :?

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