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Andy Martin
Joined: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:58 pm Posts: 1279 Location: Oxford UK
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Last of its Kind (Yucca Queretaroensis)?
I recently purchased the last of the seed grown Yucca Queretaroensis and a hybrid from Nigel Kembrey's HardyPalms Above Yucca Queretaroensis Yucca Queretaroensis Hybrid This species has now been upgraded to appendices 2 https://cites.org/sites/default/files/e ... rop-50.pdfRegards Andy
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Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:18 pm |
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John P
Joined: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:41 pm Posts: 445 Location: Tring Hertfordshire UK
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Re: Last of its Kind (Yucca Queretaroensis)?
Andy they are grown and supplied by EPS member Bill to a number of UK outlets.
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Andy Martin
Joined: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:58 pm Posts: 1279 Location: Oxford UK
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Re: Last of its Kind (Yucca Queretaroensis)?
Hello John.... yes I am aware that Bill has grown them from seed. The point I was making was that the species is now restricted in both live plants and seed distribution. It has not yet attained appendices 1... a total outright ban but certainly seed distribution will be very restrictive. BTW I missed the last visit to Bill's Garden.... maybe an EPS meet there in the future if he is willing?
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Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:38 pm |
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Paul Spracklin
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 3:55 pm Posts: 2564 Location: North Thames delta UK
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Re: Last of its Kind (Yucca Queretaroensis)?
I have to say that it seems slightly illogical to me that this plant should be listed where others have not. I have been to two sites where it grows and seen it in large numbers - many hundreds if not thousands of plants within view as you scan the area. There are plenty of other sites, almost all of them sheer canyon sides that are completely inaccessible. The paper mentions the lack of flowering with production of offsets being the main propagation means, yet it seems to do well regardless IMO.
Just one example by contrast I am also familiar with Nolina nelsonii, been to where it grows 4 times now, it has a very limited geographical area and as you scan those hillsides you see a few individuals that stand out, not large stands. The total number of plants I have seen would be in scores of plants, not hundreds and certainly not thousands. In nature propagation of this is by seed - plants flower regularly, seed is produced in vast quantities - yet population numbers remain small. And there are no restrictions on it.
I could say the same for Yucca linearifolia, which in habitat grows in almost exactly the same way as Y.q but with smaller individual population numbers albeit over a much winder geographical area than Y. q. and much more accessible. I don't think there are restrictions for this.
Of the 3 species, if it were me I would put more legal protection on the other two as they seem to me to be more at risk.
I am not saying it is a bad thing just that the 'playing field should be level'.
Anyway, thankfully Y.q produces offsets by which it can be propagated so will remain in the commercial chain.
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Andy Martin
Joined: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:58 pm Posts: 1279 Location: Oxford UK
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Re: Last of its Kind (Yucca Queretaroensis)?
Hi Paul.... Interesting thoughts there. They don't really make any comment on the hybridization of the Species which will reduce its uniqueness. I am quite surprised by your comment regarding Nolina Nelsoni. I fully expected a large and bountiful population in it's native enviroment. As for Yucca Linearifolia, this appears to be another species that is losing it's uniqueness through hybridizing. It is also confusing as their appears to be many variations of this species. I found this dissertation on the Fous de Palmiers French website http://www.societe-francaise-acclimatat ... 2015-1.pdf I found Patrick Bouraine's article interesting and yes he has actually produced an offset (Pup) I see you come with honours as well
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Kev Spence
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Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:59 pm Posts: 10902 Location: Loughborough, Leics, central UK
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Re: Last of its Kind (Yucca Queretaroensis)?
Cracking looking plants I do prefer the finer blades on Y.q myself. Andy it's a pity you did not get to go to Bills he was giving them away.. I have to say you have a fine collection of Yucca I am guessing they are progressing better than the Schefflera collection.
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Fri Feb 05, 2016 6:30 pm |
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Andy Martin
Joined: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:58 pm Posts: 1279 Location: Oxford UK
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Re: Last of its Kind (Yucca Queretaroensis)?
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Nick Macer
Joined: Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:42 pm Posts: 1284 Location: Gloucestershire, UK
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Re: Last of its Kind (Yucca Queretaroensis)?
Hey Andy, slightly off topic, but as you mentioned it... did you notice I was mentioned/featured in Country Life the other week? Someone told me about it; a feature on planthunters I think. Problem is I never saw it. If you have finished with it I would be very grateful for a peek.
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Andy Martin
Joined: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:58 pm Posts: 1279 Location: Oxford UK
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Re: Last of its Kind (Yucca Queretaroensis)?
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Sat Feb 06, 2016 11:16 pm |
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Nick Macer
Joined: Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:42 pm Posts: 1284 Location: Gloucestershire, UK
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Re: Last of its Kind (Yucca Queretaroensis)?
Thanks Andy, I remember Tania Compton (the author) ringing me about it ages ago (Jamie Compton's wife). I shall make enquiries...
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Andy Martin
Joined: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:58 pm Posts: 1279 Location: Oxford UK
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Nick Macer
Joined: Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:42 pm Posts: 1284 Location: Gloucestershire, UK
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Re: Last of its Kind (Yucca Queretaroensis)?
Jamie collected as a member of the Compton, D'arcy and Rix trio on a number of trips Andy. He ended up with a position at Reading University, but the last time I saw him a couple of years ago he told me he had had enough of plants and didn't want much to do with them anymore!! Rather odd I thought.
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